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Regardless of your personal religious beliefs, do you think Jesus of Nazareth existed?
I'm not looking for your personal feelings about who Jesus was, just IF he was. What historical evidence supports your claim? Thank you.
kickyouintheface: Don't tell me to "come off it." I happen to personally believe that Jesus existed. I'm just wondering the opinions of others because I know my views are based a lot in my personal beliefs, not objective historial facts.
I'm a regular in the Religion and Spirituality section and asked this question there also, curious as to how the different sections would answer it.
Despite being an atheist, I have no problem with the fact that it is likely that Jesus existed, even though there are no contemporary sources that explicitly say so (Josephus was born 5 years after Jesus was cruxified, and none of the Roman records mention anything).
However, he was almost certainly not the only messiah during this time frame. In fact, I would say that the only thing that made him stand out from his contemporaries was his revolutionary sermon on the mound, which proved to be a pivotal work in the field of ethics. This, more than anything, is probably why Jesus did not become just another eccentric Jew who fancied himself the messiah.
Josephus mentiones Jesus, but what the Christians won't tell you is that early church leaders did not speak very highly of him, physically. Jesus was said to be a mere 3 cubits tall (That's three underarms tall... making Jesus nearly a midget!) was crooked, dark-skinned, almost completely bald (he almost certainly didn't have long hair, the bible, and jewish custom, are explicit about long hair on a man as being disgraceful), with a long hook nose and eyebrows that touched eached other. Josephus described him as looking much older than he really was. This might have to do with the fact that, as a carpenders son, he would have been a manual laborer for the first 30 years of his life, which would mean long, hard hours of intense physical labor, which would have taken its toll on his body.
Tertullian, another early church figure, called Jesus a puerulus, which was a latin term that ment "wretched little thing".
From an anthropological standpoint, this makes sense. Typically in ancient cultures, holy people by default were exceptionally ugly. It was considered a mark by the Gods (or God)
The contemporary image of Jesus: tall and skinny, long flowing rich brown hair, with rosy cheeks and angelic good looks, didn't start appearing until well into the middle ages.
EDIT: well, being the history section, I try to keep it objective 